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Does 4NT work in Windows 7?
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Stan Brown
2010-01-27 03:26:36 UTC
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I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.

My 4NT version is 6.01U. Will it work in Windows 7, and are there
any known pitfalls?
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Klaus Meinhard
2010-01-27 07:11:07 UTC
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Stan,
Post by Stan Brown
I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.
My 4NT version is 6.01U. Will it work in Windows 7, and are there
any known pitfalls?
There was a very similar thread in the official support forum the other
day (Which version to upgrade to?"). I recommend you go to the JP
Software' website and read this thread in the support forum.

There is now a free version of 4NT named TCC/LE, which may or may not be
better suited to your needs. Look at its features (www.jpsoft.com, too).
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Herzliche Grüße,

Klaus Meinhard
Joe Negron
2010-01-27 15:30:04 UTC
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Post by Klaus Meinhard
Stan,
Post by Stan Brown
I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.
My 4NT version is 6.01U. Will it work in Windows 7, and are there
any known pitfalls?
There was a very similar thread in the official support forum the other
day (Which version to upgrade to?"). I recommend you go to the JP
Software' website and read this thread in the support forum.
There is now a free version of 4NT named TCC/LE, which may or may not be
better suited to your needs. Look at its features (www.jpsoft.com, too).
Likely not as he stated that he has very elaborate batch files and a
number of very useful internal functions and variables are missing in
the limited edition.
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shillings by telegram during their meeting: 'Please send us one of your
very best words.' Back came the word a few minutes later: 'Thanks.'
 
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Joe Negron from Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, NY, USA
Klaus Meinhard
2010-01-29 08:05:38 UTC
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Joe,
Post by Joe Negron
Post by Klaus Meinhard
There is now a free version of 4NT named TCC/LE, which may or may
not be better suited to your needs. Look at its features
(www.jpsoft.com, too).
Likely not as he stated that he has very elaborate batch files
and a number of very useful internal functions and variables are
missing in the limited edition.
Where did you read that in this original posting:

I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.

My 4NT version is 6.01U. Will it work in Windows 7, and are there
any known pitfalls?

???

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Best Regards,

* Klaus Meinhard *
<www.4dos.info>
Joe Negron
2010-01-30 16:21:25 UTC
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Post by Stan Brown
Joe,
Post by Joe Negron
Post by Klaus Meinhard
There is now a free version of 4NT named TCC/LE, which may or may
not be better suited to your needs. Look at its features
(www.jpsoft.com, too).
Likely not as he stated that he has very elaborate batch files
and a number of very useful internal functions and variables are
missing in the limited edition.
I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.
Right here?
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Judge a man by his questions rather than his answers.
--Voltaire
 
When a group of Oxford undergraduates heard that Rudyard Kipling
received ten shillings for every word he wrote, they sent him ten
shillings by telegram during their meeting: 'Please send us one of your
very best words.' Back came the word a few minutes later: 'Thanks.'
 
--Marshall McLuhan, 'Understanding Media'
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Joe Negron from Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, NY, USA
Steve Fabian
2010-01-29 11:20:09 UTC
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Stan Brown wrote:
| I'm looking to replace my 5-year-old laptop, but I've written a lot
| of very elaborate batch files and I'd hate to lose them.
|
| My 4NT version is 6.01U. Will it work in Windows 7, and are there
| any known pitfalls?

AFAIK 6.01U will work. It can share the same SHRALIAS.EXE with all later
versions up to the current one, and I do exactly that. However, there are
later features of the OS, which your other programs might take advantage of,
but which 4NT does not support. Klaus' suggestion to try TCC/LE and Joe's
caveat that there are some features not in TCC/LE that were already in 4DOS
are both valid, as I myself have used some of those features back in 4DOS
days. Download TCC/LE to your current system and try it. The help file
contains a comparison he list of features (commands, internal variables,
environment functions) of TCC vs. TCC/LE. Compare the list with the similar
list in 6.01's help file.
The only free software available from JPsoft are the LE versions, and
the ones for non-Windows OS (4OS/2 and 4DOS). Older versions of 4NT / TCC
are available, but they all need activation. If you decide on a paid-for
upgrade, definitely do not try anything but the latest.
Some very useful NTFS features were made available in Win2000, and more
in Vista, emulating Unix FS features dating back to the 1980-s. MKLNK
(available in V6) makes the features of Win2000 and WinXP available, but
only MKLINK (available since V9) allows all of them to be used.
Note that some .INI directives have been dropped in later versions, and
many added, but most are "undocumented" - you are expected to use the GUI
dialog from the OPTION command to set them. Many advanced users are unhappy
about this, but there are many unsophisticated user for each advanced user,
who required untold hours of support due to incorrect directive usage. As an
advanced user yourself, if you upgrade, you should download the V8 help
file, which is the last full list, and browse through the "What's New"
section of all later versions to find the added directives...
I agree with Klaus that you should access jpsoft.com to determine what
is best for you.
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HTH, Steve



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